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Posted on December 10, 2004 at 00:42:13 AM by
My great grandfather, Carl Oskar Hansen born 31 December 1875 in Vestre Aker moved back to the place of his father's birth, Norderhov in around 1889 to 1890 and at the time of his marriage to Karolina Antonsdatter 8 August 1896, he was working at Hadeland Glassverks as a glasscutter with her parents Peder Nielsen and Karen Thomasdatter.
Would there be any history on my Great Grandfather Carl Oskar Hansen, he was a fiddler also besides working at Hadeland and left for Gjovik before 1900.
Would anyone know if any information might be available on Carl possibly what name or farm he lived on prior to his marriage to Karolina. His father's name was Hans Andersen who was a sagemester probably at the Lower Lillo Sawmill or the Guldhaug mill. I have been trying unsuccessfully in finding any information on his parents' deaths or emigrations. I have alot of history genealogy on Peder Nielsen Hvinden and his wife, Karen Thomasdatter who were working at Hadeland in 1900 including part of the Wentzel line from Germany if anyone is interested.
In all this information I am asking:
Can I find any history on Carl Oscar Hansen and his home in Norderhov before he was married, when his mother Anne Mathea Christiansdatter born 4 October 1855 in Fet, Akershus but lived with Hans Andersen, born 19 November 1850 in Norderhov, but lived in Vestre Aker from 1875 to about 1889....
I have looked in the emigration records for Oslo and Christiania and cannot find them emigrating, but not in the 1900 census for anywhere in Norway, I don't understand what I am overlooking?
Also as I said, if anyone is interested in my Hvinden family from Gran and their son-in-law Christian Wentzel born 1848 in Biri, son of Christian Ludvig Hansen Wentzel, I can help.
Can anyone help direct me to the right resources?
Re(1): Hadeland Glassverks Employees
Posted on December 19, 2004 at 01:46:01 PM by
Dear Barbara !
Neither I am able to find Carl Oscar and/or Caroline in the 1900 cencus. Nor can I find any information related to their emigration from Norway.
I suppose - what would be the perfect thing for you to look up in order to collect information concerning Carl prior to his marrige - would be the 1891 cencus, which in nearly all aspects is exceptionally detailed.
However, it is equally difficult accessible ! It's beeing kept in the National Archive in Oslo, and available only by visiting this institution. It has not been microfilmed, and of course never processed by computer.
Concequencley it will in most cases - especially at those occations when one does not know exactly in which part of the country ones ancestors lived this particular point of time - imply several day's work to go through this extremely extensive material !
I really wish I coul be to some help here, but find it very difficult to know in which way !
Faithfully, Kjell M.
Posted on December 6, 2004 at 05:06:32 AM by
I am looking for relatives in America from my Grymyr family of Hadeland. I know a girl named Martha Pedersdatter Grymyr went to America in the early 1900. I dont know yet were to place her in my family tree. My grandmothers name is Edith Grymyr, born 1932. Her father was Hans Olsen Grymyr, born 1901, and his father again was Ole Grymyr born 1871. Hans Olsen Grymyr was married to Marie Sørvang, and Ole Grymyr was married to Marie Lomsdalen.
Posted on December 8, 2004 at 11:42:59 AM by Wendy Winkelman
We will need the name and birthday of your relative to search for her/him.
Posted on December 14, 2004 at 07:46:24 AM by
Marte Pedersdatter Grymyr, was born 5 september 1877 in Gran, she emigrated april 7 1893. Married 1897 to a man Ulvick? She had two sisters, Ingeborg and Kari, born march 2 1887 and february 21 1875.
Posted on November 28, 2004 at 07:42:01 PM by
My G.G.Grandfather,Anders Pedersen Rosomsmoen was from Grans Hadeland and was born 2-12-1822.He had two brothers,Ole Pedersen Grinager b.2-20-1827 and Thorsten Pedersen Roissium b.8-16-1829 and one sister Kari Pedersdrt.Rosumsiet b.9-16 1823.I would like to know how to locate any living relatives in Norway.
|Re(1): anders pedersen
Posted on November 30, 2004 at 10:07:30 AM by Wendy Winkelman
I found a Anders Pedersen (Kroshus) Dvergstenseiet born on Feb. 12, 1822. He immigrated on June 11, 1850 from Brandbu. Is this your gg grandfather?
Re(1): anders pedersen
Posted on November 29, 2004 at 01:57:08 PM by
Dear Mr. Tveito !
As your gg.grandpa and his siblings were born about a 175 years ago or so, any now living relatives - if they can be traced - would naturally be allmost extreamely distant; most likely 5th or 6th cousins.
If this is important to you however, I suppose I could give it try. If that is the case, please hint me again.
And - do please pay attentiom to our "Kontaktforum Hadeland-Amerika" (to which you will find a link at the top of this site) - probably you will be able to provide more information for us than vice versa !
Posted on November 3, 2004 at 07:41:08 PM by
ULRIKE MARIE BERGMAN, b. on aug. 27. 1874 in Gran, Hadeland, - emigrated march 1900 via Oslo. At the time of emigration Ulrike (or Ulrika) was unmaried. Her point of destination was New York.
I expect ther's noone "over there" who has ever come across her (?) Mabye unless one has access to "Ancestry.com", that is ....
Sincerely, Kjell H Myhre
|Re(1): Ulrike Bergman
Posted on November 4, 2004 at 08:06:29 AM by
She arrived before they took the 1900 US census!
Using the name Mary Bergman - she is living in Richland County, North Dakota (Abercombie township). Listed as born Aug. 1874 and immigrated 1900. She is listed as a servant in the household of Andrew Bakken (born 1863 Minnesota, occupation - farmer), his wife, Mary (born May 1871 Norway, immigrated 1885) and five young children. Also in the household are Andrew's parents - John O. Bakken (born June 1829 Norway, immigrated 1851) and Andrew's mother - Olea (born Aug 1835 Norway, immigrated 1854)
This census page was completed on 19 June 1900.
Re(2): Ulrike Bergman
Posted on November 5, 2004 at 03:06:44 PM by
Dear Mr. Risvold !
Thank you so very much for taking time to check the 1900 US census for me. !
The information it provides is very valuable indeed !
Respectfully, K. Myhre
Posted on October 30, 2004 at 08:04:34 PM by
I am trying to find the death dates and places for Kari Torstensdatter Hougtvedt born May 1801 at Hougtvedt to Torsten Andersen Grymyr and Kirsti Jensdatter Hougtvedt and the death of her husband Thomas Andersen whose last child, Iver Thomasen was born at Stadstadeje in 1835. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
Re(1): Kari Torstensdatter
Re(2): Kari Torstensdatter
Posted on November 25, 2004 at 09:25:42 PM by
Yes, that Kari Torstensdatter Hougtvedt is my ggg grandmother. I have an extensive amount of information on the Hougtvedt but limited information on the descendants, other than my line, of Thomas Andersen and Kari Torstensdatter Hougtvedt. I have birth and christening records for their five children Thora, Randi, ole, Karen and Iver but seem to lose their children's families.
In checking who left Gran, it seem that only one of Iver's son, Torsten emigrated to the US that I have found. Would you have any idea where all of them might have gone if they did not leave Gran? I was told by Kjell that Iver went to Brandbu, I will check there also.
Re(1): Kari Torstensdatter
Posted on September 27, 2004 at 11:16:44 AM by
I just found this site. I'm looking for birthplace & ancestry of my Greatgrandmother, Julia Johnson, born May 2,1853 in Hadeland. I have been told her parents were Johannas Johnson & Marie Haug & a sister Martha & brother Christian. Julia immigrated & lived in Abercrombie, North Dakota, then moved on to Seattle. I would appreciate any help. Thanks, Lori
Re(1): Julia Johnson
Posted on September 29, 2004 at 06:13:44 AM by
Dear Mrs. Flinn !
Your g.g.grandparents, John Johanesen of Grindereiet in Gran (ending "eiet" added to a farmname indicates a tenant farm) and Ingeborg Olsdtr. Gunstadeiet of Jevnaker were married in the Jevnaker church on dec. 12. 1841.
Ingeborg was born at Gunstadeiet on may 5. 1817, as daughter of Ole Hansen and Kari Iversdtr.
It is not possible to point out at which particular tenant farm to Gunstad Kari was born and lived; Gunstad being a major farm in the north of Jevnaker with all together six different tenant farms.
John was born at Skårudeiet in western Gran on april 10. 1817, being the son of Johannes Johnsen and wife Mari Nilsdtr.
Like so many other tenant farmers, John & Ingeborg with their gradually growing family happened to move around a lot. They had the following seven children :
OLE, b. nov.29. 1843 at Melbostadeiet
KAREN, b. jan.1 1848 at Skårudeiet, died at Hvindeneiet after four months, on may 18.
KAREN (2) b.march 12. 1849 at Onsakereiet
CHRISTIAN, b.aug.3. 1852 at Skårudeiet
JULIA, b. Christmaseve 1865 (!) at Grindereiet
JOHANNE, b.may 16. 1858 at Sandbakeiet
ANNE, b. april 11. 1861 at Sandbakeiet
The farms, or rather tenant farms, refered to above are all located in Gran, expect from Sandbakken which is in Brandbu. Interestingly enough, Onsaker is situated at the west-bank of the 3 miles wide lake Randsfjorden, while the others are to be found on the east-bank.
The sister Martha refered to in your quiery have I not been able to find. Also note that the birthdate of Julia does not correspond with the information provided by you. However i have checked the churchrecords carefully on this point, and consequently am positive !
As stated, Julia was born in "Grindereiet," and I have managed to locate this particular tenant farm. All tenant farms had their own name, and this particular one belonging to Grinder was named "UGGEN". Uggen was originally a small timber-cabin containing two rather tiny rooms; just like the most of its kind. Unfortunately it's gone long time ago, but I do know the exact spot of its location. Visit Hadeland, and I promise to show you around. :-))
I'm also in the process of locating an old picture of Uggen.
John's parents, Johannes and Mari, both ended their days in Uggen, living with their son and daughter-in-law. They passed away respectivley oct.11. 1838 and may 17. 1845
By 1863 John/Ingeborg and their family had been moving again; this time to a tenant farm belonging to Molstad in Brandbu, and named "Kalveløkkestua." This one was gone even before Uggen, but I am aware of its approximat location. Kalveløkkestua is also where Ingeborg Olsdtr. left this world, on january 22.1872.
I do not have a lot of information on your g.grandmother or her siblings. Julia moved from Sandbakeiet on nov.12. 1878 to the Adal valley of Buskerud County. At the point of time she was unmaried. Most likely she emigrated from Ådal, but I am unable to confirm this.
Ole, the oldest, certainly emigrated. He left Kalveløkkestua on june 6. 1870, titled "shomaker." I know for sure he went by Molstad as his familyname. He was embarking "S/S Scotia" in Oslo on june 14. His point of destination was La Crosse, Wisconsin. "Scotia," which was built 1866 by J & G Thompson & Co. of Glasgow, UK, was bought by the "Anchor Line" in 1869, and actually made it first trans-atlantic crossing in the year 1870. It took Ole and his fellow passengers via Hull, South Yorkshire, UK to "Granton Dock" in New York.
I need to let you know taht I quite a number of years ago was contacted by an american descendant of Ole. His name was Clay L. Molstad, and according to my notes from back then he lived in Thief River Falls, MN.
Enough for now. It's time for potato-harvest in Hadeland, but I will come back to you when I get the time to, and, hopefully, some more info.
Yours respectfully, Kjell H Myhre
|Re(2): Julia Johnson
Posted on September 29, 2004 at 04:38:15 PM by Dave Gunderson
The detailed reply to this inquiry from Kjell Myhre "may" have a very slight typographical error.
The Digitalakivit for Gran baptismal records shows that Julia, the daughter of John Johansen and Ingeborg Olsdtr was born 24 December 1855 and was baptized 17 February 1856. The farm is shown as GrinerEiet.
The 1865 Norwegian Census shows the following for the Kalvelokkestuen farm:
John Johannes. age 49
Ingeborg Olsd. wife age 49
Ole Johns. son age 23
Christian Johns. son age 14
Jolia Johnsd. daughter age 11
Johanna Johnsd. daughter age 8
Karen Johnsd. daughter age 17
Anne Johnsd. age 5.
There is also an "out-migrant's record" from 12 November 1878 showing that Julia Johnsd. from the Sandtakeit farm, born in 1855, went to Aadalen.
Again, this is a minor point - "1855" instead of "1865".
Fergus Falls, MN
|Re(3): Julia Johnson
Posted on September 30, 2004 at 07:02:58 PM by
Thank you so much for your replies. I have relatives on the other side of my family living in Oslo, so I just may get to Norway one day soon.
Julia married Sivert Sneen & lived in Abercrombie. He died & she married Peter Turnquist from Sweden. They moved on to Seattle.
Why did Ole use the name Molstad?
Thanks again, Lori
|Re(4): Julia Johnson
Posted on October 3, 2004 at 07:24:12 AM by Kjell H Myhre
Dear Julia !
The genalogical information you possess on this family after US arrival is important to "Kontaktforum Hadeland-Amerika" ! Plesae make it accessable to us by clicking the link on top of this site, and follow the instructions given there !
Yours faithfully, Kjell
|Re(5): Julia Johnson
Posted on November 17, 2005 at 00:25:37 AM by
I just learned my Maternal Great Grandfather John Johnson was in Hadeland, Norway in 1918. His son was Carl J(John or Johan)Johnson born 31 March 1886 in Norway. I think my Grandfather immigrated to the U.S. in 1906. He lived in South Park (the southend of Seattle) , King Co, WA, USA
Lise Olava Olsdatter
Posted on September 19, 2004 at 03:22:59 PM by
I am looking for any information on two sisters, born on the Bergereie farm in Jevnaker.Marte Olsdatter,born January17,1852, and Lise Olava Olsdatter,born September12,1858.They where the children of Ole Jensen and Lisbet Iversdatter. They had four other siblings Berte,Ole,Ingeborg,and Jens
Re(1): Marte and Lise Olava Olsdatter
Re(2): Marte and Lise
Jorgensberg Family Tree
Posted on August 30, 2004 at 04:26:55 AM by
I would like to know if anyone has information on the family tree of Even (Evan) Jorgensberg or Jergensberg from the Lillehammer-Oppland County area. They came to Wisconsin and then eventually to the Devil's Lake area in North Dakota. They changed their name to BERG when arriving in the USA! Even's son's name was Alfred Berg.
Re(1): Even Jorgensberg Family Tree
Posted on July 11, 2004 at 01:55:15 PM by
I am looking for birth information on Marthe Pedersdatter. She was married on 3-29-1830 @ Nes kirke,Brandbu to Lars Pedersen. Died 8-16-1894 @ Johanbråten gård in Brandbu,buried @ Nes kirke on 8-24-1894
Posted on July 11, 2004 at 08:03:14 PM by
Marthe was born may 5th 1808 at the Dyrud farm, being daughter of Peder Pedersen Dyrud and his wife Mari Andersdtr. Peder & Mari got married on march 18th 1802 at the St. Nicolai Church of Gran.
Mari was b. about 1775, as the second youngest of Anders Hansen and Pernille Jacobsdtr. Dyrud's six children.
At the time beeing I have no further information on Peder Pedersen, except that he at the time of his marrige was living at the Dotset farm; neighbouring to Dyrud.
However the couple seems to have settled at Dyrud.
The Dyrud and Dotset farms are both located west of the lake Einavatnet, in Vestre Toten municpality of Oppland county. The Toten region border on Hadeland in the south, and intermarriges between these communities has been somewhat common at all times.
Respectfully, K. Myhre
Posted on June 11, 2004 at 11:22:31 AM by
Looking for family of GG grandmother, Pernille Larsdatter b. May 14, 1815 Hilden farm. Father's name supposedly Lars Hansen, mother's name Gubjor Andersdatter.
Siblings are: Kari Larsdatter 9Jan1816
Mari Larsdatter 27Juli1825
Hans Larsen 15Mai1819
Did the siblings stay in Norway or emigrate also. Pernille and husband Ole Pedersen came to Dane Co, Wisconsin in 1852 via Quebec with 5 children, Gudbjor, Peder, Charl, Lars, Erick
They were born on Haagenstad, Fjellhammer and Tomasgjerdet farms in Lunner and Gran parishes, Hadeland, Norway
Posted on June 12, 2004 at 08:14:47 AM by
FamilySearch shows a Gulbiør Andersdatter baptised 6 August 1780 in Gran. She was the daughter of Anders Gulbrandsen and Dortha Christophersdatter. They appear to have married 3 July 1780 in Gran.
The 1801 Census shows Gulbiør Andersdatter [age 21], the daughter of Anders Gulbrandsen and Dorthe Christophersdatter, living on the Hilden Farm. There are a total of six children shown.
In FamilySearch, I see a marriage record for Gubjør Andersdatter and Lars Hansen 25 Sep 1813 in Gran. This is probably the correct one.
Per the Digitalarkivet, I found the following children of Lars Hansen and Gubiør Andersdatter:
Hans - born 18 Sept 1813 Hilden Farm
Pernille - born 14 May 1815 Hilden Farm
Kari - born 1 Sept 1816 Smedrue Farm
Hans - born 15 May 1819 Tokerud Farm
Mari - born 27 July 1823 Tokerud Farm
Hans - born 11 Oct 1825 Tokerud Farm
Anders - born 11 October 1825 Tokerud Farm
Hans - born 25 July 1828 Tokerud Farm
Since 4 sons were named Hans, it is clear that the first 3 died as infants or children.
I could not seem to find that either Kari or Mari left Norway in the out-migrant's records. I see a number of marriage records, of which several might be the correct Kari and Mari Larsdatter.
I did find in the Gran out-migrants records, the departure records for Anders Larsen [born 11 Oct 1828], his wife Anne Pedersdatter [born 26 Sept 1821], and their children. They left Gran 9 April 1861. They had been living on the Tokerud Farm.
There is also a departure record, the same date, for Hans Larsen [born 25 July 1828], his wife Johanne Hansdatter [born 10 August 1830], and their children. They had been living on the Buxerud Farm.
In short, two brothers and their families left Gran the same day for America. I found the departure records of great interest to me personally. On April 9, 1861, my great, great uncle Niels Olsen Tokerud, and his brother Ole Olsen Tokerud, and spouse, also left Gran for America. I would guess that they probably traveled on the same ship to America.
They would have clearly known your family in Norway. My great, great uncles went to Quebec and initially settled near Racine, WI.
Posted on May 26, 2004 at 07:59:28 PM by
I am looking for info on the Egge/Eggeeiet farm in Gran, where my gggrandfather, Ole Olsen, and his wife Berthe Bredesdatter or Bjornerud left from in 1870. Ole chandged his last name to Egge in America. He was born May or June 3, 1839 in Vang i Valdres, which I understand has very limited digital archives. Does anyone have any church or local records that could help? His first son was also named Ole, which leads me to believe that his father's name was Ole.
Also, Berthe's father was named Brede Julsen, b. 1810 Dotset, Toten. We cannot find any info on him, either.
Thank you for any help!
Re(1): Egge farm/Brede
Re(1): Egge farm/Brede
Re(1): Egge farm/Brede
Posted on May 10, 2004 at 01:15:03 AM by
Searching for descendants of Paul Nilsen (b.circa 1788 in Toten) and his wife Helene Hansdatter, who lived on the Skari farm in Hadeland. I know of three daughters and their descendants: Mari (b. 1811) m. Hans Julsen Skari, Ragnhild (b. 1817) m. her cousin Kristian Olsen in Toten, and Marthe (b.1822) m. Hans Pedersen Løvbraaten. I would like to know of other children and their descendants.
Posted on April 18, 2004 at 04:25:08 PM by
I am seeking information on Gudbrand Anderson Kolen born March 17, 1796 in Hadeland Norway. He married Marthe Persdatter Rugruta in 1826. They had the following children: Anders, Peder, Marie (m. Ulrick Buraas), Martin and Karina. Karina was born in 1839 in Urdal, Norway. Some of the children used the name surname Ostlie. They settled in Clermont, Fayette Co., Iowa.
Re(1): Kolen, Rugruta
Posted on February 23, 2004 at 01:50:59 PM by
Ole Amundson Velo, December 18, 1844. I am trying to establish whether he was born in Jevnaker or Ringerike, possibly Hole? There is an Ole in the Protocols that states he was working at the Hadeland Glassworks but, this still does not establish a birth place for me or whom his parents, siblings are. In the Minnesota, Wilkin County, All Townships Census, his immigration date is listed as 1869. I have one brother listed as Andrew or Andreas. There also was a Martin Hans Velo, same place in Wilkin. It was brought to my attention that Ole and Martin might be brothers but still no evidence. Ole's death certificate states that his father is named Ammund and Martin's death certificate has his fathers name listed as Hans. Both certificates say that the mother's name is Marie. Andrew or Andreas Velo also has his father's name listed as Hans and his mother as Marie. Same mother, different fathers? US Federal census has a "Andrew" with similar birth date as the Andreas Velo that I have a death certificate for, listed as the brother of Ole Amundson Velo. Any information regarding his parents, siblings or further information regarding Ole is greatly appreciated.
Re(1): Ole Amundsen Velo
Re(2): Ole Amundsen Velo
From Jevnaker to New Bedford
Posted on February 15, 2004 at 01:58:19 PM by
Searching for the following persons in the US - emigrated from Norway/Oslo abt. 1900 all of them left Jevnaker. I am a little ashamed of the lack of information but i cannot resist to put on a few names below - just in case. If anyone recognizes the names and need their fathers names please contact me. The persons mentioned are born abt. 1850-1880.
Hilmar Olsen Bakken born in Jevnaker 1880, died in the US in 1949.
Petter Eriksen Franzestuen to Canada
Adolf Fillinger born 1873 in Jevnaker m. Kaspara Bakken b 1878 to US in 1908, died in 1947. Kaspara was still alive in 1951.
Kar August Nyquist b. 1869 in Sweden to America spring 1904 to New Bedford.
Julia (Gudbrandsdatter/Andersen?) Grina and her children, 4 boys and 2 girls, went to Corning Glassworks.
Lars Petersen Hedlin emigrated abt.1900
Peter Elof Ståhl and his family: Julie Marie, ?? Juliana b. 1886, Carl Josef b. 1893, Dagny b. Dec. 25 1896 Left Jevnaker 9/9 1904, dest. "America" and Anna Theodora Elvira Ståhl b. 1884 left Jevnaker autumn 1902.
Hilda-Marie Wentzel b. Aug.1 1878 and Carl Johan Anderson Lindblom b. 1873 in Sweden their daughter Lilly Kristine Ovidia b. 1901 left for America spring 1904
Anna Kristine Wentzel b. Aug. 1 1878 (twin with Hilda-Marie).
Karen Nikoline Wentzel b. July 17 1881.
Emilie Sofie Johansson b. 1885 to America autumn 1904.
Gerhard and Arnhold Gudbrandsen emigrated spring 1903
Peter and Lars Olsen US or Canada
Imanda Iversen died in the US 1946
Kristian Iversen and his daughter Agnes left for US in 1904.
Anders Engebretsen Thoen to New Bedford and Gundersens Glasswork in 1903.
Fritz Ludwig Hirsch emigrated spring 1903, died in 1964 in former Lindford Township (according to Anna Claxton).
Anton Isak Trondsen b. 1878 left for the US spring 1903 to Corning Glassworks/Pairpoint Company.
Lauritz Andersen (Vang)Stua to US abt. 1900
Martin and Johannes Andersen Brørby to Gundersens Glassworks in New Bedford
The following are hopefully mentioned in combination with glassworks fi the Pairpoint Company:
Anton Karl Andersen
Anton Andreassen Nordhagen
Anton Halvorsen Aas
Hans Nilsen Lapperud
Vilhelm Nørtemann (Nortemann)to Quincy, Massachusetts
With kind regards, Torun
Re(1): From Jevnaker to New Bedford
Posted on February 13, 2004 at 06:28:36 PM by
My great great grandfather, Ole Anders Bratvold b 1833and wife Mali Knutdatter, came from Noway to Minnesota before 1858. His father's name was Anders Gulbrandson Bratvold. My maternal grandfather was Lars Myhre who came from Norway in the late 1880s to Minnesota and then Alberta Canada. His wife's name was Elise. Anyone know information on these families or individuals?
Re(1): Norwegien ancestors
Re(1): Norwegien ancestors
Posted on February 16, 2004 at 07:15:22 PM by
Dear Mr. Bratvold !
I have made an attempt to search for your ancestors based on the information given in the query in various Norwegaian sources, but this far unfortunately without success. Both Bratvold and Myhre are well-known farm names from the Hadeland area, located respectively in the municipalities of Jevnaker and Gran.
However noone by the name Ole Andersen is born in Jevnaker 1833 +/-. Nor is any Anders Guldbrandsen father to any other children born in Jevnaker during the 1830's. Neither in Gran, the neighbouring Hadeland-minicipality.
I take it you're confident that your g.g.grandfather was born in, or at least emigrated from the Hadeland area of Norway. May I therefore allow myself to suggest that you perhaps go through the information you do have available once more, simply to make absolutely sure no misunderstandings has taken place at any time, as far as names and dates are concerned. You are very welcome indeed to come back to me any time, and I promise to do my outermost to assist you in this matter.
I won't however neglect the fact that the farm name Bratvold is no way unique to Hadeland and Jevnaker. It does, as a matter of fact, exist more than 30 farms (or previous tenant farms) by this name spread throughout the country.
In conclusion, I look forward to hear from you again !
Kjell H Myhre
Re(1): Norwegien ancestors
Posted on February 18, 2004 at 06:25:51 PM by
As a very, very amateur genealogist, I thought I might make an effort at trying to find some information on this inquiry. On Ancestry.Com, I found Ole A. Bratvold [born 15 Feb 1833,died 03 Aug 1906] and Mali Knudsdatter Bratvold [born 8 Sep 1834, died 23 Dec 1896].
I searched on FamilySearch.Com and found a marriage of Mali Knudsdr and Ole Andersen on 13 April 1852 at Skrautvaal, Oppland, Norway - husband aged 20, wife aged 18. The bride's father was Knud Knudsen. The groom's father was Anders Olsen. I again searched and found a Mali Knudsdattr, the daughter of Knud Knudsen and Jorand Olsdatter, christened 21 Sep 1834 in Nord Aurdal, Oppland, Norway.
I seached on the Internet and found a page on Nettsurfer.com [Norsk Sjofart, Maritim Industri og fritidsbåter] that referenced an Ole Bratvold 1833-1906 married Mali Knutesdater Gigstad in 1852 & sailed the next day for Wisconsin. Established a farm at Kenyon, MN in 1859, and remained on it until he died.
I found Knut Knudsen, aged 1, on the Gigstad Farm in the 1801 Census. Knud Knutsen was still on the Gigstad Farm in the 1865 Census.
The only thing that is possibly wrong from the information you provided is the name of Ole Andersen Bratvold's father - Anders Gulbrandsen, or should it be Anders Olsen? Knud Knudsen and his wife had many children.
I hope my efforts were of some use.
Re(2): Norwegien ancestors
Posted on February 20, 2004 at 07:11:49 AM by
Being an amateur or not - you've located the correct family here ! As it seems, these people after all didn't have any actual connection with Hadeland.
As I poïnted out in my reply to Mr. Bratvold's inquiry, the Bratvold farm-name is to be found several places in our country, such as in Skrautvaal, North Aurdal Valey, Valdres region of Norway. According to an e-mail sent me by Mr. Bratvold, he's already aware of this actual "Valdres link"
However Mr.Gunderson, you deserve credit on your investigations ! Keep up with the good work, and it's just a question of time until you're entitled to consider yourself a "professional" ..... :-)))
Re(1): Norwegien ancestors
farm name Morstad Eiet
Posted on January 29, 2004 at 04:53:22 PM by
I have seen the suffix "Eiet" after some farm names. For example, "Morstad Eiet." Can anyone tell me what "eiet" means or designates?
Re(1): farm name Morstad Eiet
Posted on January 28, 2004 at 03:15:23 AM by
My Great Grandmother was Julia Gulbyor Holey a/k/a (Gudbjorg Hole). She was married to Brede Onsager, son of Anders Pedersen Onsager.
She was born in 12 Nov. 1869 in Norway. Her father was Lars Holey.
Information that was given to me by my grandmother is difficult to confirm and attention was not given to accurate spellings. This is what I have:
Gudbjorg Hole born 12 Nov. 1869, died 6 Nov. 1932. Her parents were Lars Mikkelson Hole and Gudbjorg Blekken.
Lars' parents were Mikkel Rokin and Gudbjorg Thomti. Can anyone confirm any of this as I feel that the spellings and variations could be great. Thanks again for your assistance in the past.
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Torger & Severine/Syverine Onsager
Posted on January 26, 2004 at 07:01:59 PM by
I know that Torger and wife came over to America 1870 with three children to the Northwood Iowa area and then later moved to Northwood ND with 6 children, but Anne was not with them.
Torger Onsager b 6/29/1839 at Gran Prestegjeld Oppland Norway.
Syverine Christensdatter Larsen b 1/03/1841 at Jevnagers Prestegjeld Oppland,Norway. Hans Torgersen Onsager b 4/29/1862
Anne Thorgersdatter Onsager b 9/11/1865
Iver T. Onsager b 4/8/1869
I do believe that they may have been Hanson at one time. They are from the area around Lake Randsfjorden and had worked I believe on an Onsaker farm. I am looking for any further information as to Iver's, & Severine's Parents and Siblings. Will appreciate any and all information
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Posted on January 28, 2004 at 11:19:56 AM by
Dear Mrs. Sansburn !
Just a brief note to let you (and others who might have interst in this family) know that further information can be provided. I will contact you directley as soon as time allowes me to.
However, there are no direct relationship between the Onsager's you refere to above, and the family refered to by Brady Onsager.
Re(2): Torger & Severine/Syverine Onsager
Posted on January 28, 2004 at 12:01:31 PM by
Dear Mr. Myhre.
There is a relationship through the marriage of Knain's & Onsagers; Knain's & Johnson's (Rockne. These Rockne's around from around Voss, Norway.
Thank you for your time I appreciate it.
Respectively Meredith Sansburn
Re(3): Torger & Severine/Syverine Onsager
Posted on January 28, 2004 at 06:31:16 PM by
Mrs. Sansburn !
I do of course not doubt that there, most likely, might exist a relaisonship between the respective families throug intermarige in the U.S. as you describe. My point was rather to emphasise that there is no connection through the actual Onsager line.
Brede Onsager and his family were residing at JÆGERSBORG, Torger Onsagers family at HAGESTUA - both tenant farms to Onsager, after which both took in possession their "new" surnames in America.
However, could you plese confirm wether you're a descendant of Torger Onsager or not ? And in case you are, would you like me to provide further information on this family ?
Also, please pay attention to our Kontakt-forum, and fill out the electronic form linked to this site. Your information is valuable !
Re(4): Torger & Severine/Syverine Onsager
Posted on January 28, 2004 at 07:51:23 PM by
Yes I am a decendent of Torger & Syverine Onsager. They are my Great Grandparents. I do know that when they came to America their last name was Hansen and like many others took the name of a farm that Torger had worked on. Their 3rd child Iver who was born around Gran "Parish" Hadeland
on April 8, 1869 and came with his parents and 2 siblings Hans T. and Anne Thorgersdatter, is my Grandfather. He married a Julia (Johnson) Rockne. My fathers name was Eddie J. Ohnsager. AT some point an "H" was put in our name to distinquish from the other Onsager's that lived around Northwood, ND. They settled around Northwood, IA coming to the Northwood, ND area in 1878 with 6 children in all. There were twins Anton T. & Gulbrand T.,Ingebor & Christine who was born in 1878 and was a small baby when Torger and Syverine moved by oxen. Anne was not with them, I do not know what happened to her wheather she died or got married.
Yes, I would like very much for you to find out more about my Great Grandparents if at all possible.
I would be happy to fill out the eletronic form linked to this site but I do not know how to get to it. Unless it is the 3 lines below the message box at this site. I do not know what the Link Name is, URL link, Image URL so please bare with me as I am rather new to this type of Contact information.
Thank You Sincerely Meredith
Re(5): Torger & Severine/Syverine Onsager
Posted on January 21, 2004 at 07:49:59 PM by
I was named after Brede Onsager, my G-grandfather. He is mentioned in the 1921 Lag Yearbook as a sibling of AA Onsager. His father was Anders Pedersen Onsager. I am interested in learning about his parents and siblings. My grandmother lives on the Onsager farm in Allamakee Co. Iowa where the Onsagers originally settled...thank you for any information
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Posted on January 3, 2004 at 11:45:46 PM by
My relatives are from Jevnaker, Lunner, Ulven søndre. His name is Ole Hendrickson Ulvin, b 1812. He married Gertrud Iversdatter Rustad b December 27, 1817, Gran Præstegjeld and immigrated to Minnesota. They had the following children:
Helene Olsdatter Ulven
Kjersti Olsdatter Ulven 1844
Gulline Olsdatter Ulven April 30, 1848
Julia Maira Olsdatter Ulven 1853
Elsie Olsdatter Ulven 1857
Ole Olsen Ulven October 1863
Anyone know of this family or have information about this farm? Anyone know about Gran Præstegjeld?
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